TIL 519: Complex Trauma (feat. Francine Tan)
Truth in Love
Association of Certified Biblical Counselors
4.8 • 630 Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2025
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
1. What is CPTSD?
2. Why was CPTSD excluded from the DSM IV and DSM V?
3. How did Freud influence Judith Herman?
4. What halted this movement in the 80s and 90s?
5. What is Judith Herman's view of a recovery model?
6. What is ACEs and how is it being used today?
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| 0:00.0 | Complex Trauma on this edition of Truth and Love. |
| 0:11.0 | I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, |
| 0:15.9 | where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face. |
| 0:20.3 | This week on the podcast I have with me, Dr. Francine Tan. |
| 0:23.7 | She's a biblical counselor from Malaysia and has been certified with ACBC since 2021. |
| 0:29.3 | She has a BA from UCLA. |
| 0:31.0 | Her MABC is from the Masters University. |
| 0:33.9 | And she graduated recently, a newly minted graduate, PhD Applied Theology from Midwestern Baptist Deological Seminary. |
| 0:41.6 | And she also works for ACBC and is a member of Mission Road Bible Church in Kansas City. |
| 0:47.0 | Francine, it's good to have you with us today talking about this very difficult subject of trauma. |
| 0:52.6 | Thanks, I'm glad to be here. |
| 0:53.9 | Now listen, complex trauma, a lot of people have heard of the idea of trauma. Thanks, still. Glad to be here. Now listen, complex trauma, |
| 0:55.8 | a lot of people have heard of the idea of trauma, complex trauma, or what some people call |
| 1:01.0 | complex PTSD or psychological trauma. I want you to introduce us to that concept and even some of |
| 1:07.5 | the people who gave us this concept. So talk a little bit about C-PTSD, complex post-traumatic stress disorder. |
| 1:15.9 | Introduce us to that concept frenzy. |
| 1:18.1 | Sure. |
| 1:18.4 | So complex trauma came from Judith Herman. |
| 1:22.0 | Just a brief history about her. |
| 1:23.8 | She's a professor of psychiatry at Harvard in 1981, where her research focused on the |
| 1:28.4 | psychological response of victims of child abuse, rape, and domestic violence. In 1992, Herman published |
| 1:35.0 | her magnum opus, trauma and recovery, the aftermath of violence, a book that came to redefine |
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