Grace Relations on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

And this week on the podcast I have with us, Mrs. Aurelia Smith. I'm so grateful for her and her work. Aurelia, first of all, I want to welcome you to the podcast, and I want to say a word or two about you. So welcome to the podcast. I'm so glad that you are with us and you're an engaged member at ACBC and you serve your local church well.

So thank you so much for being with us.

Well, thank you so much.

It's a delight to be with you today.

So I want to tell you a little bit about Ms. Aurelia.

She did her undergraduate degree at the Air Force Academy and she completed an MABC at the Masters University. She's been an ACBC member since 2010.

And if all that education was not difficult enough, she's now engaged in a pre-med degree program and has some aspirations to pursue medical school and that sort of thing. I love hanging out with

Aurelia, just a clear-headed, kind perspective

on things. She's written a book, I'm going to mention to you, ministering to military women. And

Oraliyah, I'm so grateful that you're here. We're going to talk a little bit about a breakout session

that you gave at our most recent annual conference back in October of 2021. And it's on this topic, Grace Relations, Counseling, Using the Psalms of Lament,

prayers and supplication for the majority and minority culture Christians.

And listen, we don't have to tap dance around the difficulties that we see with race relations and that sort of thing.

And I appreciate so much

that you're willing to talk about these, you know, even difficult issues. But I want to just start

by just saying, you know, what are some of the things that prompted you to discuss this topic?

Well, yes, thank you so much. And that was quite a mouthful for that title. So I'm glad you

truncated it to just grace relations.

But at any rate, it's sort of multi-pronged that covers both the past and the present.

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