Living with Chronic Pain on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Heath Lambert and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions for the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast, our guest is Dr. Brad Brandt, a fellow with the Association of Certified

Biblical Counselors and the pastor at Wheeler'sburg Baptist Church in Wheeler'sburg, Ohio.

We're talking with Dr. Brandt this week about the problem of chronic pain.

So many people, many of you who are listening to this, live every day, every week, every month

with very serious chronic pain and life doesn't stop for you. And so we want to talk about

the truths that you can take into your heart and how you might minister to someone who

is struggling with this. Dr. Brandt, would you describe some of the various experiences of chronic

pain that people can live with as they struggle to be faithful in their life?

You know, there's, according to WebND, 100 million Americans that struggle with chronic pain,

and they define that as pain that lasts longer than six months. It can come in all shapes and sizes.

Obviously, the physical chronic pain is what stands out. Back pain, migraine pain as I struggle with.

But it's not just the physical. I think of the woman that's living

in a very difficult situation and the prospect of it changing isn't getting any better, an abusive

husband or parents that are grieving over the loss of a living adult child that's away from the Lord and breaking their heart.

Chronic pain can be relational.

We think of it mostly as physical.

My wife has struggled with autoimmune disease for close to 30 years.

She's really the one ought to be sitting here.

She has dealt with chronic pain, and I've learned a lot from her. In more recent years, God's really the one ought to be sitting here. She has dealt with chronic pain, and I've learned a lot from her.

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