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Where does this fit into the tapestry of your family history?

It's not something that the family has taken with any kind of joy.

My father would mention armor on occasion,

but he wouldn't say anything about why we didn't know armor that we'd never met him.

You know, it's one of our uncles and his sisters who were my grandfather's children, my aunts.

They just didn't want to talk about it.

If it came up, it was whispered about it.

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