Thunderbolts and Andor Revive Struggling Franchises

Geek History Lesson

Jason Inman

Film History, Visual Arts, Tv & Film, Arts

4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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In the span of a few days Disney Studios release Thunderbolts and Andor on the world. In subsequent days the movie and streaming show have grasped their respective franchises by the reigns and breather new life into both through strong telling from a certain point of view. We explore why putting humanity at the forefront of both the Marvel Cinematic Universe and the Star Wars franchise has brought both critical and audience success. Thought we'd have nothing nice to say? It's time for you to listen along and some crow, yourself!

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0:00.0	Thunderbolts and Andor are kind of the king and queen of all things geekdom right now.
0:18.4	Which one's the king and which one's the queen?
0:20.5	Well, I guess Florence Pugh is the leader of the Thunderbolts and then Andor is always, I guess
0:24.2	Andor is the king and Thunderbolt is the queen. Don't be so pedestrian. Thunderbolt is the king and
0:28.4	Andor is the queen. Well, Diego Bluna is a beautiful queen. So let's go for it. Absolutely.
0:33.1	Yeah, they both look great in the crown. Everything he's a beautiful man so let's go for it absolutely uh jason
0:38.8	and i have both had really unique experiences with both of these properties um being i would say
0:44.6	pleasantly surprised with our reactions to both of them and there's a really really great indewire
0:50.4	article called thunderbolts and or redeem struggling franchises. And so I think we're going to
0:56.3	dig down on that and we're going to very happily eat some crow because you know what,
1:00.1	even though this is the internet, we can admit when we're wrong, right, Jason? Well, I technically
1:04.4	no. We've never been wrong. I want to point out, by the way, it's funny that this IndyWire article says that both
1:12.1	of these things are struggling franchises when they're made by the same company.
1:16.4	This is an interesting observation.
1:18.1	They're both Disney products here.
1:19.7	And we'll drill down into some more interesting observations as we say, hello and welcome
1:24.4	to geek history lesson.
1:25.9	I'm Ashley Victoria Robinson.
1:28.1	And I'm Jason Inman. This is the podcast that we sometimes called the Mine University, but is mostly called
1:32.1	GeekHest Lesson where we drill down into one topic in a little bit less than an hour, something
1:37.0	fun from pop culture. And today, you know, a couple weeks back, we did an episode about the
1:43.5	Thunderbolts.
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