Another week, another set of indictments, the fourth indictment of Donald Trump. Welcome

to the latest episode of Trump Trials with our partners from Law Fair, and I am joined

by Ben Wittis, editor-in-chief of Law Fair, who is speaking to us from Helsinki. Good

morning, Helsinki, Ben. I'm not in Helsinki anymore. Okay. I am in the small Estonian

town of Narva, which is right on the Russian border, and as I look out my hotel room window,

I could literally throw a baseball into Russia right now if I had a better arm than I do.

You can see Russia from your window. In a fashion that is much more literal than Sarah

Palin. I am probably about a football field and a half from the Russian border. By the

way, just on a serious and unrelated note to anything we're going to talk about today.

If anybody has any doubt about the importance of NATO in defending human freedom, I invite

them to come to this town. You know, this is something that's occurred

to me over and over again. We talk a lot about courage, but what must it be like to be,

you know, in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia with their history of being dominated by the

Soviets right across the border and then standing up against them? I mean, it's right there.

This is not theoretical. This is not something that they have to deal with in seminars. They

can look out their window and see where the bear is, right the freak there.

The town that I am in was bombed into non-existence. There were no old buildings left in it.

And when Stalin was finished destroying it, he refused to allow Estonians to come back

to it and populated it entirely with Russians. So this is a Russian-speaking city in Estonia.

To this day, it is populated by almost entirely by Russian-speaking Estonians. And when you walk

down the street, you not only are separated by a narrow river from the Russian city of Ivongarad,

and the river, by the way, has a maritime border in it. You can see buoys in the river that, you know,

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