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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Throwback Thursday: Brief Therapy for ADHD

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Medicine, Alternative Health

4.8440 Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2023

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

You started a stimulant medication for a young woman with ADHD. When she returns her symptoms are 70% better, but what can we do about the rest? Today a conversation with psychiatrist Scott Shapiro about behavioral interventions for adult ADHD.CME: Take the CME Post-Test for this EpisodePublished On: 09/14/2023Duration: 12 minutes, 1 secondChris Aiken, MD, and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

You started a stimulant medication for a young woman with ADHD.

0:04.2

When she returns, her symptoms are 70% better, but what can we do about the rest?

0:09.7

Today, a conversation with psychiatrist Scott Shapiro about behavioral interventions for adult ADHD.

0:26.7

Welcome to the Carlet Psychiatry podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:33.2

And this is a Thurback Thursday episode, where we're going to update this 2019 classic with new research and CME credits at the end.

0:39.2

In our November-December issue, we covered some of the more controversial topics in adult ADHD,

0:45.9

such as what really happens when people don't have ADHD but take stimulants to enhance their

0:51.6

cognition. But what about real adult ADHD? Symptoms of ADHD

0:57.0

tend to improve as the brain matures into adulthood, but for about one in three, the disorder

1:03.2

continues to affect their adult life. Today, I'll talk with Dr. Scott Shapiro, a psychiatrist

1:10.0

in New York City who specializes

1:12.0

in combined psychotherapy and medication for adults with ADHD.

1:21.0

Dr. Shapiro, from your perspective, is ADHD a trait that many people have to some degree, or is it a disorder that you either have it or you don't?

1:33.9

So, Chris, that's a great question.

1:36.4

People can have traits of ADHD, such as procrastination or struggling with focus or getting up and down at work.

1:46.3

But that's not necessarily ADHD.

1:50.4

ADHD really is a cluster of symptoms both that are in the DSM-5 as well as many symptoms

1:58.3

that are not in the DSM-5, such as executive dysfunction in emotional

2:03.5

dysregulation. I definitely myself see it as a disorder as opposed to trait. Executive dysfunction.

2:11.9

You said that's not in the actual DSM criteria, but I imagine that's got to cause some problems for the patients.

2:19.5

Well, it does.

2:21.1

Even more than some of the core symptoms that are discussed in the criteria, such as focus,

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