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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Throwback Thursday: ADHD and Identity

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Medicine, Alternative Health

4.8440 Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2023

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

When a child grows up with untreated mental illness, there's a good chance it'll affect their identity. We'll look at how to work with that in the psychotherapy of ADHD.CME: Take the CME Post-Test for this EpisodePublished On: 09/14/2023Duration: 13 minutes, 07 secondsChris Aiken, MD, and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

When a child grows up with untreated mental illness, there's a good chance that'll affect their

0:04.9

identity. We'll look at how to work with that in the psychotherapy of ADHD.

0:14.7

Welcome to the Carlite Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:20.8

And this is a throwback Thursday episode, where we're going to podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:26.6

And this is a throwback Thursday episode, where we're going to update this 2019 classic with new research and CME credits at the end.

0:32.1

Today we'll continue our talk with psychiatrist Scott Shapiro about the therapy of adult ADHD. Dr. Shapiro

0:40.2

practices schema-focused therapy, which is a branch of cognitive behavior therapy that was

0:45.8

developed in the mid-1980s by Dr. Jeffrey Young. Dr. Young had become dissatisfied with the effects

0:52.1

of traditional CBT on patients with chronic problems

0:56.0

like personality disorders. He hypothesized that these patients had deep-seated beliefs about themselves.

1:03.1

He called these schemas, which he defined as a life trap or pattern of negative behavior

1:09.5

that a person repeats over and over again throughout their life.

1:13.7

Drawing from attachment theory, he theorized that these schemas developed at an early age

1:19.0

when basic childhood needs failed to be met by early caregivers.

1:24.3

Schema-focused therapy is best studied in borderline personality disorder, but it's now being

1:30.1

applied to ADHD and other chronic mental health conditions as well.

1:35.6

Some of the schemas or enduring beliefs that are common in ADHD include failure, the belief

1:43.2

that one will fail in virtually all endeavors,

1:47.2

defectiveness and shame, the idea that one is unwanted or insignificant to others,

1:54.1

and unrelenting standards, the idea that one must meet unreachable goals in order to avoid criticism from others.

2:02.6

Outcomes in ADHD are much better when treatment is started early, particularly before puberty.

2:09.6

So it seems to me that this schema-focused therapy would be most useful in people whose ADHD was not recognized and treated until adulthood because of

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