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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Throwback - The Bright Side of the Serotonin Gene

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Medicine, Alternative Health

4.8440 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2024

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

As we delved into Carl Jung's archetype of the wounded healer last Monday, it reminded us of something we learned about the serotonin transporter gene. Has modern genetics discovered a pathway to the archetype? You be the judge in this throwback to a 2021 episode. CME: Take the CME Post-Test for this Episode (https://www.thecarlatreport.com/blogs/2-the-carlat-psychiatry-podcast/post/4708-throwback-the-bright-side-of-the-serotonin-gene)Published On: 05/20/2024Duration: 22 minutes, 31 secondChris Aiken, MD and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

As we delved into Carl Jung's archetype of the wounded healer last Monday, it reminded us of something

0:05.9

we learned about the serotonin transported gene. Has modern genetics discovered a pathway to the

0:11.8

archetype? You be the judge in this throwback to a 2021 episode.

0:27.7

The serotonin transported gene is one of the most popular genes on a pharmacogenetic panel.

0:35.5

Supposedly, it predicts whether someone will respond to an SSRI, but there's a whole other side of this gene that doesn't get told.

0:44.4

Welcome to the Carlythe Psychiatry podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:48.3

I'm Chris Saken, the editor-in-chief of the Carlat Psychiatry Report.

0:52.7

And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psychiatric MP and a dedicated reader of every issue.

1:01.0

Why do some people get depressed under stress, but not others?

1:07.8

Many people have taken a stab at this question, but in 2003, psychologist Avshalom Kasby came upon a particularly eloquent answer.

1:12.6

He and a team of researchers have been following a cohort of babies born in Dunedin, New Zealand, around 1972. You may know it

1:19.2

as the Dunedin Multidisciplinary Health and Development Study. The 1,037 children that took part in it

1:25.7

have given us around 300 papers on everything from heart

1:29.0

disease to ADHD. But mainly the study has focused on how the environment shapes a child's

1:34.6

physical and mental health for years to come. And by the time of 2003, the human genome had just

1:40.3

been mapped, and Dr. Caspi was able to test how a certain gene interacted with the

1:44.8

environment to shape the development of depression. That gene was the serotonin transporter

1:50.9

gene, also known as 5HTT, SLC-6A-4, or the CERT gene. We'll call it CERT in this podcast.

2:03.2

The gene codes for the serotonin transporter, which, as the name implies, helps transport serotonin back into the neuron in the brain.

2:09.5

The gene comes in two major alleles, or forms. The short arm or SS allele and the long arm,

2:16.8

or LL allele.

2:18.5

Technically there is a third as some people have one of each allele,

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