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Intelligent Design the Future

Three Types of Science, pt. 1: Experimental Science

Intelligent Design the Future

Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture

Science, Philosophy, Astronomy, Society & Culture, Life Sciences

4993 Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2024

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of ID the Future out of the vault, host Andrew McDiarmid begins a three-part conversation with biophysicist and philosopher Kirk Durston. The pair discuss Durston's article series about three types of science — (1) experimental science, which is generally very trustworthy, with some exceptions; (2) inferential science, which can be trustworthy but often takes huge leaps into the doubtable and dodgy; and (3) fantasy science, which is essentially science fiction masquerading as actual science. This is Part 1 of 3. Look for Parts 2 and 3 the next two Fridays! Source

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0:00.0

Welcome to ID the Future, a podcast about intelligent design and evolution.

0:17.6

Hello, I'm Andrew McDermott. Today my guest is writer and speaker Kirk Durston, who holds a PhD in

0:22.4

biophysics, a master's in philosophy, and undergrad degrees

0:26.2

in physics and mechanical engineering.

0:29.3

Durston has published several papers in peer-reviewed science and philosophy journals.

0:33.0

Since the 1980s, he has studied the possibility that meaningful information in general

0:38.0

and genetic information specifically is the fingerprint of intelligence. His PhD work involved developing a method

0:46.1

to identify and measure functional information in bio polymer sequences and to see what that information does in terms of protein structure.

0:55.0

One of his current research projects involves working with a team of scientists

0:59.0

to develop software that can help us better understand the sub-molecular structure of proteins and how they fold.

1:06.0

When he's not studying protein folds, Dursden enjoys family, nature photography,

1:12.0

and experiencing the remote wilderness.

1:14.0

Kirk, thanks for joining me today.

1:16.0

Well, thank you for having me.

1:18.0

I'm glad to be here.

1:20.0

Absolutely.

1:21.0

Well, today we're kicking off a three episode series with you, exploring a series you recently wrote actually, that looks at the differences between three major categories of science.

1:32.0

You put it as experimental, inferential, and fantastical or science fiction.

1:38.5

Today we'll focus on your thoughts related to experimental science.

1:46.4

First, can you tell us why you wrote this series? What are the big picture ideas you're trying to communicate here? Well, over the years, as I spent time in various science departments and read what people were accepting as true in the general public sphere,

2:01.0

I had serious reservations about a lot of the things that people just

2:06.8

accept as fact, the lay person on the street, so to speak. But the question was, what was it about 21st century science that disturbed me or that I found

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