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Hi, Scott.

Hi, Bob.

Thank you.

Happy to be with you here.

Well, I'm happy to have you.

Let me introduce this.

I'm Robert Wright, publisher of the Non-Z0 Newsletter, to which everyone should subscribe. This is a non-zero podcast to which everyone

should subscribe. You are Scott Horton. For one thing, you are a host of your own thing,

the Scott Horton Show, which there's a podcast version of, which I've

been known to listen to. You're also editorial director of anti-war.com, and you are author of the

book we're going to talk about, which is called Provoked, how Washington started the new Cold War with Russia and a catastrophe in Ukraine.

Congratulations on the book. You enjoying the promotional process?

Thank you. No. I mean, yes, I love doing podcasts and stuff like this and talking to people.

And, you know, that's my thing is trying to spread the message. Of course, that's why I wrote the book. So, yes, I am happy to promote the thing. And at least I don't have to write it anymore. So that part is over. That part's over. So antidewar.com. For people who don't know, you want to talk a little about kind of the ideological lineage and, and so on, of that and of you?

Yeah, I'm happy to answer that. So anti-war.com was founded by Eric Garris and Justin Romando in 1995.

The late Justin Romando. The late grade, Justin Romano. Who died what, two, three years ago, four years ago?

Actually, a little bit longer now.

It was in the summer, early summer of 2019 that he died.

Okay.

And so Justin, who is essentially my mentor there, he, and I'm now in his chair as

editorial director, he was the protege of Murray Rothbard, who is considered to be the primary.

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