This is Mesters in Business with Barry Redholz on Bloomberg Radio.

This week on the podcast, I have an extra special guest.

His name is Tom Gainer and he has a fascinating position in the world of investing in finance.

He is the chief investment officer and co-CEO of Marquell Corporation, which he describes

as a publicly traded family office. They have an insurance arm. That's the genesis and

history of the company. But he also has been running the investment portfolio for quite

a while. That's their second arm. And they have, for lack of a bit of word, a venture

or private equity group that purchases companies. Really a fascinating history, a tremendous

track record, and really a very interesting gentleman. I found this conversation to be

fascinating. And I think you will also. So with no further ado, my discussion with Marquell

corporations. This is Mesters in Business with Barry Redholz on Bloomberg Radio.

My extra special guest this week is Tom Gainer. He is the CIO and co-CEO of Marquell, a

diversified financial holding company. He has been dubbed the next Warren Buffett by

no lessen expert than Jason's Wide of the Wall Street Journal. From 2000 to 2015, Gainer's

stocks have averaged a return of 11.3% annually while the S&P 500 returned a mere 4.2% counting

dividends. Tom Gainer, welcome to Bloomberg.

Thanks so much for having me.

So I've been looking forward to having this conversation. You're kind of an interesting

guy working in kind of an interesting company. I don't think a lot of folks know what Marquell

is and does. Why don't we start by just give us the short version. What is Marquell?

Sure. And in fact, not only do a lot of people not know what Marquell does, a lot of people

don't know how to pronounce it. So it's an easy screening technique when somebody asks

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