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The Megyn Kelly Show

Thomas Chatterton Williams on the Authoritarian Left, the Illusion of Racial Identity, and Victimhood in America | Ep. 80

The Megyn Kelly Show

SiriusXM

Society & Culture, News, News Commentary

4.632.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2021

⏱️ 115 minutes

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Summary

Megyn Kelly is joined by Thomas Chatterton Williams, contributing editor to Harper's Magazine and the New York Times Magazine, to talk about the illusion of racial identity, the "Authoritarian Left," the fallout from his "Harper's Letter," victimhood in America, the situation at Smith College, nuance of policing in America, anti-racism vs. anti-race, his parents and family, race and schools, and more. Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms: Twitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShow Instagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShow Facebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

0:07.0

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly, welcome to the Megan Kelly Show.

0:15.0

Today we've got Thomas Chatterton Williams.

0:19.1

This guy is bold.

0:20.7

He is bold man, he tells it like it is and he takes a lot of slings and arrows but stands

0:25.0

tall.

0:26.0

He is, he has such a fun resume, he's an author and he's a cultural critic.

0:30.6

He writes for Harper's magazine, he writes for New York Times magazine and he's a fellow

0:37.1

at AEI, American Enterprise Institute, which I was saying on our last show when I was teasing

0:42.2

this, that you know it's a conservative think tank.

0:44.5

So think about that, right?

0:45.5

He's not blinded by ideology or partisanship and his views, they cover the board.

0:51.5

He's the guy who got that famous Harper's letter going where mostly people on the center

0:56.4

left were gathered together to speak out to the left on free speech saying calm down

1:02.8

and remember what America is supposed to be about and stop being so illiberal, right?

1:07.6

So he's a doer and he's a thinker and his most recent book is called Self Portrait in

1:12.9

Black and White, Unlearning Race.

1:17.1

His dad was black, his mom's white and he has been thinking about race in an interesting

1:23.7

way for his entire life.

1:25.9

And I think you're going to listen to him and think why aren't more people going to Thomas

1:30.9

Chatterton Williams way as opposed to the Robin DeAngelo way?

1:34.0

Why aren't we listening to this man of color as opposed to this white woman who's trying

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