Thom Hartmann Program - 1 Hour Edition - 12/12/18 - Thom discusses Matt Taibbi's new essay exposing Trump as the classic heel in the tradition of pro wrestling. Ellen Ratner reveals Michael Cohen's courtroom confession that working for Trump caused personal and mental incarceration.
The Hartmann Report
Thom Hartmann
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🗓️ 12 December 2018
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Thom examines Trump's media style through the lens of professional wrestling with insights from a new essay by Matt Taibbi exposing Donald as the classic heel.------ Listeners call in with revelations on Trump's history in pro wrestling, the audience perceptions and reactions to the baby-"face" hero and the villainous "heel" and how Trump manipulates the unsuspecting media with his base pleasing portrayal of an anti-hero.----- Ellen Ratner gives the Talk Media News report with updates about Michael Cohen's sentencing and denouncement of Trump and how so called "opportunity zones" intended to help minority populations are changing regulations.
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| 0:15.0 | This is the Tom Hartman program. Creetings my friends, patriots, lovers of democracy, truth and justice, |
| 0:21.0 | believers, and peace, freedom in the American way |
| 0:23.4 | Tom Harbin here with you. Well, Donald Trump does it again. I gotta tell you |
| 0:30.9 | there's there's just this amazing dynamic going on. |
| 0:35.0 | Matt Taibee has a new newsletter. |
| 0:36.6 | It's a subscription newsletter. |
| 0:37.8 | It's called Hate Incorporated. |
| 0:39.6 | If you just plug in a Matt Taibee newsletter, hate ink, H-A-T-E-H-E-H-E-H-H-E-H-H-E-H-H-E-H-E-H-E-H-H-E-H-E-H-E-H-E-B, you know, the penny completely dropped for me. It was just extraordinary. |
| 0:58.0 | When I was a kid, I mean like, you know, eight, nine, ten years old, a guy who lived down the street from me a boy who was my age his name was Dennis he was sort of the neighborhood bully and he and I had sometimes we were friends and sometimes he'd chase me down the street and beat the |
| 1:13.4 | crap out of me. |
| 1:15.8 | And his dad was a pretty rough character. |
| 1:18.9 | But what we used to do when I was on good terms with Dennis, we'd all go over to his house and we watch wrestling on TV, |
| 1:25.1 | on his black and white TV. |
| 1:27.3 | My parents would not have it on in my house, but I used to watch these wrestling shows and you know for a while we thought it was real you know and |
| 1:36.8 | There is and this is what Matt Tuybee's pieces about it's called controversy creates cash which is the title of a book about how to make money in the wrestling business. |
| 1:46.0 | And wrestling is actually theater. |
| 1:49.0 | It's theater done by big muscled steroid-laden guys, but it's theater. |
| 1:55.0 | And there are two basic roles that are played |
| 1:59.5 | in the theater of big-time wrestling. |
| 2:02.2 | One is the baby face, the good guy, the short |
| 2:06.3 | contraction for that that's used in the wrestling world is face. And the other is |
| 2:11.9 | the bad guy who is known as the heel. |
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