“This Is Why We Have Laws”: Bloomberg’s Tim O’Brien on the Case Against Trump

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🗓️ 7 September 2022

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This week, cohosts Emily Jane Fox and Joe Hagan talk to Tim O’Brien, executive editor of Bloomberg Opinion and author of "TrumpNation," about the latest obstacle in the Department of Justice’s investigation into Trump’s handling of top secret documents. The decision by Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, to appoint a “special master” to review the documents and slow the investigation, reeks of politics, says O’Brien. “Does this send a signal to other Trump appointees that you should carry the bag for your handler?” he asks. Despite Judge Cannon’s recent ruling, "the reality is this is a very robust and existentially threatening investigation to Donald Trump,” O'Brien adds, and Trump’s political power in the coming midterms is clearly on the wane. Can the law prevail over politics? Also in this episode: Hagan talks to Edward Buckles, Jr., director of the searing HBO documentary, “Katrina Babies.” A filmmaker from New Orleans who was 13 at the time of Hurricane Katrina, Buckles explores the tragic fallout on the lives of his friends and loved ones, most of whom never returned to their homes, part of an African-American diaspora largely ignored after the tragedy faded from the American consciousness. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome back to Inside the Hive. This is Emily Jane Fox. I'm here with my co-host Johegan
0:11.7	Hey Joe. Hello Emily. It's the first week back from summer. We have two fantastic interviews.
0:20.2	We have one with Tim O'Brien that is just all things Trump as we have so much to talk
0:26.9	about as usual and you did a fantastic interview with Edward Buckle's Jr. Tell me a little bit about that.
0:32.8	Well, Edward Buckle's Jr. is a documentary maker from New Orleans. He has a very personal
0:39.0	story to tell in a documentary that's on HBO right now called Katrina Babies. He was 13 years old
0:44.8	when Katrina Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans and really upended the way we think about the climate,
0:53.1	the way we think about politics and so much more and about inequality. It turns out this
0:59.5	week is the 17-year anniversary of when Kanye West went on television and said George W. Bush
1:06.2	doesn't care about black people and kind of caused a big stir. I can't believe it was 17 years
1:11.8	ago. That's the thing. Katrina, you think that it seems far back in the rear view but it's
1:20.4	something that really never went away for hundreds of thousands of people whose lives were affected
1:25.2	and this documentary is about the kind of diaspora of largely African Americans who were whose lives
1:32.3	were changed and in some cases destroyed by Katrina and the reaction to Katrina, the government
1:38.0	reaction to it and it's a very emotional and very candid documentary and we're going to talk to
1:45.2	Edward Buckle's junior all about it. It's just heartbreaking and killing to hear the interview
1:52.2	speaking of climate though and I think there's nothing more boring than talking about the weather but
1:58.0	there is a reason why you and I are talking about it and it's not that it's hot, it's not
2:03.8	that it's summer but it's that there is an issue that's going on in this world that is
2:09.6	inescapable and it's horrifying and the fact that we've been dealing with 100 degrees here
2:15.0	over the last few days is just the tip of the problem. Yeah, I saw a headline today that 90 is the
2:23.3	new 80 in California. Temperatures rising here on the east coast where I am there was a drought
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