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Odd Lots

This Is The Challenge Of Securing The Battery Supply Chain

Odd Lots

Bloomberg

Business News, News, News Commentary, Business, Investing

4.52K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

With oil prices surging, there's a sense of greater urgency about moving more towards electric vehicles. But of course the metals that go into EVs are also expensive. And that goes for the core technology -- lithium ion batteries. On this episode of the podcast, we speak with James Frith, a lithium battery expert and investor at the VC firm Volta Energy Technologies. We discuss the state of the art of battery technology, as well as the ongoing need for commodities.

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Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Odlots podcast. I'm Joe Weisenthal. And I'm Tracy

1:00.2

Allaway. Tracy, the surging price of oil and other fossil fuels has certainly got a lot of people

1:10.0

talking more about the energy transition, EVs, electric cars, renewable energy on the grid,

1:17.2

solar panels, wind, etc. But it also seems clear that all that is going to be very expensive as well.

1:24.4

Yeah, this is the ultimate irony. Just as oil prices are spiking and everyone's going,

1:29.1

oh, we need to, you know, quicken the transition away from fossil fuels. It seems like all of the

1:35.9

commodities that you actually need for that transition for decarbonization, those are spiking too.

1:42.3

Yeah, not only are we seeing a surge in price, and if you look at all these crucial metals, whether

1:47.4

it's nickel or cobalt or the price of lithium, all these crucial ingredients, not only are the

1:54.1

charts mostly up into the right, there aren't that many of them. It's not just that they're costly.

1:58.8

It seems like these markets, again, kind of like oil are extremely tight. There's not just a bunch

2:04.2

of it to be easily procured from what I can tell. Well, so this is something that I'm really

2:09.1

curious about. What exactly is the supply of these essential metals for batteries? Because I'm sure

2:16.0

you remember the rare earths, like, I don't want to call it a bubble because clearly there was

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