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Make Me Smart

This is not your grandpa’s union

Make Me Smart

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News, Business

4.65.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2022

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Labor organizing looks a lot different today.

The workplaces are different compared to decades ago. Think less industrial factories with thousands of workers and more Starbucks, REI and Trader Joe’s with bargaining units of a couple of dozen employees, all organizing one location at a time.

“On one hand, it could be easier because you’ve got a smaller group of people to be making the demands. But then you have this challenge of power … it’s hard when you’re looking at a massive corporation, but you’re organizing it piece by piece,” said Sarah Jaffe, labor journalist and co-host of the podcast “Belabored.”

The AFL-CIO’s goal is to unionize 1 million workers in the next decade. Could organizing smaller workplaces be the path toward reversing decades of declining union membership?

On the show today, what labor organizing looks like in the modern economy, why it’s different from what we saw in the past and what it means for the workplace of 2022 and beyond.

In the News Fix, the wild story of an Olympic athlete and what it says about modern-day slavery. Plus, we’ll tell you about an airport to avoid if you’re traveling this summer. Later, we’ll hear from listeners about deep sighs and coupons, and we’ll make you smart about flapjacks!

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Kimberly Adams and welcome to Make Me Smart, where none of us is as smart

0:10.8

as all of us.

0:11.8

I'm Kyle Rizdall, it's Tuesday.

0:13.4

We're doing one topic today as we always do on Tuesdays and we're talking labor organizing,

0:18.8

labor unions organized labor in this country.

0:22.0

What is happening?

0:23.8

Because actually there's a lot happening.

0:25.1

As an Biden was out with iron workers in Cleveland last week, union workers as you know are a huge

0:30.8

political force in this country and oh, by the way, there's an election coming up.

0:34.7

And so we're going to talk about the strength and the impact of organized labor in this economy

0:41.7

right now.

0:43.6

Because it's like we seem to be hearing about a new union drive almost every week, Starbucks

0:48.5

locations, REI, Trader Joe's, Apple in some cases, the list goes on and on.

0:54.3

It's not organizing though, looks different today than it did decades ago.

0:58.6

And so we're going to talk about the implications that has four workers in this economy.

1:03.0

Sarah Jaffe is here to make a smart, she's a labor journalist, also the co-host of the

1:06.4

podcast, the labor and also she writes books.

1:09.5

A couple of them are called, Work Won't Love You Back, which is parenthetically editorial

1:13.7

thing or true.

1:15.7

And also, I mean, my boss is listening to your mind and also necessary trouble to none

1:21.3

of them.

1:22.3

Sarah, welcome to the show.

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