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The Pay Check

'This is My Number'

The Pay Check

Bloomberg

Society & Culture, Business, Investing

4.4630 Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2018

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

In the third episode of the podcast’s conversation series, Michele Roberts, the first woman to head a major professional sports union in North America, talks to Emily Bazelon, a journalist and lawyer by training, about making it in the male-dominated world of law. They discuss how they learned of gender-based pay differences in the law field, what it’s like to be the only woman in the room, and the importance of finding deeper reasons to do the work you do, regardless of how much money you make.

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:04.2

A warming planet, complex geopolitics and fierce competition means business operations are under more scrutiny than ever before.

0:13.0

Returning to Singapore this July, the Bloomberg Sustainable Business Summit is uniting leaders and investors

0:19.0

to explore how sustainability efforts can bolster resilience

0:23.0

and mitigate risk. Learn more at Bloomberg.com slash sbsd-sbis-Singapore. That's

0:29.3

Bloomberg.com slash sbs-sbs-singapore. Hey, it's Rebecca Greenfield, the host of The Paycheck.

0:45.6

Welcome back to the third installment of our conversation series about women, work, money, and sexism.

0:53.3

This week, we bring you our final chat for now.

0:57.6

The story of pay for women in law is a familiar one.

1:02.7

Female lawyers make a lot less money than the men do.

1:06.2

Women only make up about 20% of partners at firms,

1:09.8

and among partners there's a 44% pay gap,

1:13.6

all of which makes Michelle Roberts' career remarkable. Michelle grew up in public housing in the

1:19.9

Bronx and went on to build a reputation as a skilled trial attorney. In 2014, she became the first

1:26.9

woman to head the NBA Players Association.

1:30.2

That's the union that represents the players when they negotiate with the NBA.

1:34.7

She talks with Emily Bazelon, a lawyer by training who chose a different path.

1:39.9

She became a journalist and is also a lecture at Yale Law School.

1:44.2

We're going to pick up the conversation with Michelle talking about her early career.

2:06.3

When I decided to become a lawyer, I frankly decided to be a public defender.

2:12.1

My background was such that I had grown up with people who, when they did get in trouble,

2:13.6

could not afford good lawyers.

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