Hello?

Hello?

Hey, can you hear me?

I can hear you, can you hear me?

Mm-hmm.

How are you, uh, how are you holding up? I'm fine. I got real overwhelmed and stressed yesterday.

Yeah. And then I took a little break and I feel better today. How are you? You know, I do know.

Things are things could go a lot of directions but I was thinking about you know I'm hearing you know the

social distancing takes a real toll on people and it's a real sacrifice and there's this sort of thing

of like just you should be glad because a lot of people are suffering and dying and really

sick but I think that sort of policing of who's suffering more in these situations

is really not helpful and that everyone who's making different levels of sacrifice should hopefully feel that

their right to, you know, lament their own isolation and take it seriously and everything is

yeah there's always someone suffering more than more than you but it doesn't mean that you can't express your concerns.

So hopefully, yeah.

I think that's a really nice point and I'm grateful for you making it because I have just felt guilty or like not entitled to really any

amount of stress given that I'm fine anyway even if this even if this podcast in our

discussions are very skewed toward people who are,

you know, likely to remain personally healthy, it's going to affect us all in different ways.

But we need to do a better job of, you know, trying to understand everybody else's challenges in helping them, I think.

I'm moralizing too much. Sorry sure I'm morelizing too much sorry I'm you know yeah we

don't come to you for that no no no we come we want information for me it was

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