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I'm Maura Aaron's Mealy, and this is The Anxious Achiever, the show that looks at the intersection of mental health and work and how we can all do both better.

Craig Kramer has worked as a lawyer in the U.S. Congress at an international human rights organization and went on to a variety of roles in global, corporate, and governmental affairs

at Johnson and Johnson, one of the world's largest companies.

Then mental health crisis hit for two of his children.

The family had to navigate the criminal justice system, the mental health system, and two demanding careers without a map.

Changing the family's dynamics, creating tension, and making Craig reevaluate what he was doing.

Craig served as the first mental health ambassador for Johnson and Johnson, but the shift wasn't always easy.

Craig joins us now, as does his son Peter Lee Kramer, who has struggled with his own mental health

and his relationship with his father over time. But they've come out the other side. Today, Peter is pursuing a

graduate degree to become a licensed therapist, a career path also changed by his experiences

with the mental health system. And we start with Peter's story because it contributed

greatly to his father's career change and reprioritization.

Peter made it to college, a top-tier college, and was an NCAA champion soccer player.

But there were mental health challenges lurking behind that impressive resume.

I started by asking Peter how he thought about himself, if he was always someone driven to succeed.

No, to be completely honest.

I would say that my success in soccer might paint a picture of somebody who's highly driven and motivated.

But school was always, I don't know if torment is the right word, but I'll use that for now.

Where I always underachieved and most of my teachers, if not all, said that I lacked a certain motivation. I was always

viewed as talented, but not somebody who had the best work ethic or discipline. Were you the,

if only he could try harder, kid? Yeah, exactly. Like, I know this kid has so much potential that he's

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