This Denomination Treats Women Like OBJECTS

Sons of Patriarchy

Peter Bell & Sarah Bader

Religion & Spirituality

4.2 • 649 Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 97 minutes

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The counterpart to Episode 13, It's Only a Matter of Rank. This time we have Beth Allison Barr (James Vardaman Professor of History at Baylor University, and author of numerous books), Sheila Wray Gregoire (founder of Bare Marriage, and author of numerous books), Cait West (yes, again!), and Hannah Oliver.

The men are trained as leaders, and the women, as followers. The virtuous woman *only* stays at home, homeschools her children, satisfies her husband, and makes sure there's no ugliness in her. They are to stay silent, unless, of course, they've been approved to teacher other women to... stay silent. You can speak, as long as you tell other women not to.

At the same time women are more liable to deceit than their male counterparts they also hold the power to cause their brothers to stumble. It's a whiplash, a system wherein you're told to be feminine, but not too feminine, smart, but not too smart, put together, but not independent.

In summary, it's impossible. A standard you can never live up to. But there's another way, the way of Jesus. He who gladly took a rank below his, to give you a rank above yours.

Buy Beth's book Becoming the Pastor's Wife here: https://tinyurl.com/53bepjff

Buy Beth's book The Making of Biblical Womanhood here: https://tinyurl.com/yc7336tk

Buy Sheila's book The Marriage You Want here: https://tinyurl.com/5y6rjdxh

Buy Sheila's book She Deserves Better here: https://tinyurl.com/5n8afrsw

Buy Sheila's book The Great Sex Rescue here: https://tinyurl.com/4t4yna7b

Buy Cait's book Rift here: https://tinyurl.com/y7j85csy

Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by:

Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell

Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/

Social Media: Sarah Bader

Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors

SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Sons of Patriarchy. I'm your host, Peter Bell.
0:05.0	Sons of Patriarchy exists to expose the hidden power structures behind Christian nationalism.
0:10.5	Through survivor testimonies, shared storytelling, and honest expert critiques from across
0:15.9	political, theological, and cultural spectrums, we shine light on systems of abuse and authoritarian control
0:23.6	principally focused on Doug Wilson of Moscow, Idaho, and the movements he has founded and influenced,
0:29.2	as well as across reformed and conservative churches. Our goal is not just to inform, how did we get
0:35.7	here, and what do we do about it, but to spark meaningful
0:39.2	conversations in homes, faith communities, and public spaces about what a healthier, freer,
0:45.9	and more just society can look like. Together, we can dismantle harmful narratives and build
0:52.8	communities of mutual respect and diversity.
0:57.2	Sons of Patriarchy aims to do what Doug cannot. We will unite people. We do not demand you be
1:03.6	like us. We meet you where you are. And while you may not always agree with us, we hope we can
1:09.6	agree on this. Churches should be safe.
1:14.1	You can find us on all podcasting platforms as well as YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and X, and
1:20.7	Sons of Patriarchy.com. Add free episodes, bonus content, listening a week ahead of time on both audio and video,
1:30.8	monthly Ask Us Anything Specials and many more perks are available across five membership levels
1:36.3	at patreon.com slash sons of patriarchy. Much of the same is available via Apple podcast subscriptions for $4.99 a month.
1:48.0	You can give to this work directly at donorbox.com slash sons dash of dash patriarchy.
1:56.7	Exclusive Sons of Patriarchy merch is available at Sonsopatriarchy.com slash merch.
2:02.9	If you'd like to get a hold of us, desire to interview either myself or co-producer Sarah Bader,
2:09.4	or your news media agency looking for information on Christian nationalism,
2:14.5	Patriarchy Doug Wilson, or anything else we covered in this series,
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