Just the heads up y'all, this episode has some vulgar and homophobic language.

Just be a boss.

What's good, everybody?

You're listening to Code Switch, I'm Gene Demby, and this week,

I'm joined by Huo Jingnan.

Hey, Jingnan, what's good?

Hey, Jingnan.

So Jingnan is one of our colleagues here at NPR,

and she covers how information gets made,

how it gets disseminated, right?

Yes, and as part of that, I cover how conspiracy theories travel and spread.

Okay, so you're on the tinfoil hat beat, right?

Yes, but not just that.

I cover the entire information environment, both online and offline.

Thanks social media chat groups, television schools, workplaces, churches.

So basically, anywhere we get our information, got it, okay?

That is a very important beat, especially right now.

I mean, I think so.

You were here today at Code Switch because we are on the race beat,

and I know that on this episode, we're going to go down a rabbit hole with you.

I guess we got to pull our whiteboard and get the red markers and start drawing connections.

Because you're going to walk us through a phenomenon that lands right

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