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The Pomp Podcast

This Bitcoin Investment Strategy Changes Everything | Jeff Park

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Business, Investing

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Jeff Park is a Partner and Chief Investing Officer of ProCap BTC. This conversation was recorded at the Independent Investor Summit in New York. In this conversation we talk about the intelligent investor vs ideological investor, radical portfolio theory, rise of prediction markets, stablecoins, and what the future of bitcoin treasury companies looks like. 

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TimeStamps:

  • 0:00 - Intro
  • 0:35 - Intelligent investor vs Ideological investor
  • 3:51 - Radical portfolio theory 
  • 10:04 - Why prediction markets will be huge 
  • 15:21 - What is the role of stablecoins? 
  • 20:41 - Bitcoin treasury companies 
  • 29:25 - Ideas to trade Strategy 
  • 35:50 - What happens when the premiums trade at a discount? 
  • 38:25 - Advice for navigating the world 


Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:03.2

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0:06.2

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0:12.7

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0:14.1

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0:15.4

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0:17.7

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0:21.0

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0:25.6

So we started the business two years ago. We had a few people who were used to PCs and this was their first foray into Macs.

0:33.3

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0:38.3

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0:45.3

So this is the insight that I'm going to share.

0:48.3

There's this notion that the bells and whistles of these prefers offer different outcomes

0:53.3

because there is some rank order effect as to some appearing a little bit more secure than others, the market has decided that there's a 30 point spread. I'm telling you, in a terminal value perspective, it doesn't really matter. They're all going to be shared in the same bankruptcy class. So then what you can really think about is, well, why do you buy preferred today anyway? You're buying it because of the yield. You want to get paid cash now for

1:15.0

owning micro strategy risk. And so the most compelling security that I see today is,

1:22.1

all right, Jeff, you have very unique views of the world of investing, including you recently have been talking a lot about this idea of an ideological investor versus maybe the like Buffett type. Explain the difference between these two people.

1:37.6

Yeah. I've been thinking about this a lot. And it goes back to an old adage that has been said before,

1:45.0

which is that everyone in the world today seems to know the price of everything, but the value of nothing.

1:51.2

And I think that's what the core of value investing is missing today.

1:56.5

When you think about Benjamin Graham's version of value investing, it talks about cheapness.

2:03.5

It talks about valuation metrics that is mostly concerned around a yield on a liquidity bootstrap.

2:10.7

And it talks a lot about these constructs that applies for a certain period of time for which investing frameworks worked, which is

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