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In 1980, as the debate between the two major party candidates was held in Cleveland,

viewers on one network would have seen the President Jimmy Carter take a question.

The Republican challenger, Governor Ronald Reagan, respond.

And then, they'd hear a response from an independent candidate, John Anderson.

Anderson was not in Cleveland at the debate at all. The Oh, Well these days it'd be a million ways to accomplish that but this was 1980 and it was early early cable news

CNN at this time had just 3.5 million viewers in the entire country, while the two major party candidates were in Cleveland, Anderson was in Washington, D.C. at Constitution Hall.

For producers would videotape the ABC coverage in a van outside. A stenographer would record the questions asked of the two major candidates in Cleveland and then get it to CNN monitor Daniel Shore, who would ask it of Anderson.

They'd air the video jack debate, and then, by that time, would hopefully have an Anderson response

to fill the air while they recorded more in the van.

It was kind of a crazy scheme.

It was a nice try, but several times it went out of sync.

The network aired Reagan once answering a question that hadn't been asked yet.

And Moderator Shore kind of messed up the timing, taking too long or leaving dead air at points.

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