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🗓️ 2 March 2021
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For years, a central goal of the conservative movement was to install right-wing judges. A Republican president delivered, big time. And these Trumpists are still pissed.
Which tells you one thing. For the authoritarian wing of the Republican party, this was never about interpreting the American legal code. It was always about raw political power.
“It's not about the rule of law. It's not about getting good qualified judges. It's about results- oriented litigation,” former U.S. Attorney for Alabama Joyce Vance tells Molly Jong-Fast on the latest edition of The New Abnormal. “They want judges who will vote to save the election for a president who has clearly lost it. And that's just out of bounds. It doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or a Republican. The notion that the courts could be used to steal an election is really the epitome of being anti-democratic. It's ludicrous. It's ridiculous. It just shows you that these folks are off the rails. They might as well have stood on a stage at CPAC and torn up the Constitution.”
Vance adds, “We should immediately begin to identify what's being done here as anti-democratic. I don't believe that that's where my Republican friends in Alabama are. Many of them are good people who have different principled views than I have on policy issues. They believe in the Constitution and the rule of law. And they're horrified by what they're seeing.”
Because the Trumpists aren’t just looking for judges that overturn elections they don’t like. They don’t want anyone outside of their crowd to be able to vote, period. “These efforts to suppress the vote previously have been relegated to dark corners of political operatives. It's now actually the platform of the Republican party to make it hard for people to vote, because they're afraid that they might not vote Republican. They should be expending half the energy they're expending on voter suppression on trying to win voters over, on creating policies that are appealing to the population,” Vance says. “This is a sickness in the American political dialogue.”
Vance also looks at the mushrooming scandals around Andrew Cuomo, and the mounting legal cases for Trump. Then, Olivia Troye, who worked for Trump and Mike Pence during the early days of the pandemic, talks about their botched response to COVID. “It turns out nobody in the White House cared about spreading the virus,” she says. And the Washington Post’s Dave Weigel, fresh from CPAC, talks about how even straight-laced Republicans are now espousing the Big Lie.
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0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Molly Zhangfast and welcome to the Daily Beast's Venue Abnormal. I'm a |
0:05.8 | left-wing pendant and an editor at large at the Daily Beast. We're here to have |
0:10.7 | fun, sharp conversations with some of the smartest people in media, politics, |
0:16.4 | and science that help make what's happening in the country and the world |
0:20.4 | clearer. Our world has been turned upside down. On the new abnormal we'll talk |
0:26.2 | about the people who got us into this mess and figure out how we get ourselves |
0:30.8 | out of it. And I'm producer Jesse Cannon and I'm here to make sure everything |
0:34.6 | doesn't go too far off the rails while we have fun discussions about our world |
0:39.0 | gone mad. And why take that duty seriously? Ourself's not so much. On this episode |
0:45.2 | we're going to talk to former district attorney Joyce Fitz about what's going |
0:49.0 | on in the legal wars around voting rights as well as Trump's legal woes. And |
0:53.1 | Olivia Troyes could tell us her perspective on some of the things that are |
0:56.2 | going on after working under Mike Pence. But first we're going to talk to the |
0:59.9 | Washington Post political reporter Dave Wigel about what he saw at CPAC this |
1:04.0 | weekend. Hi Dave. Hello. Thank you so much for coming on. Happy to do it. I'm so |
1:10.1 | thrilled. This whole weekend I've been like watching you because this is like my |
1:14.2 | first CPAC in a while where I haven't been and you have been on the ground |
1:17.7 | interviewing people and just like drinking in the weirdness. Yeah and trying to |
1:24.1 | be respectful of the conference. I mean I because I've covered I cover the |
1:29.7 | left more that I cover concerns at the moment but I cover conservators quite a |
1:32.8 | lot for years and I have to get some of the past out of my head because parties |
1:37.8 | change and ideologies and movements change. But I have so much CPAC knowledge |
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