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John Arthur’s vows to Jim Obergefell came during a unique wedding ceremony that changed the course of American history. It was 2013 and at the time, Arthur was dying of ALS. Due to the generosity of friends and family the couple were able to exchange vows from within a medical plane parked in Maryland, where gay marriage was legal. Obergefell and Arthur’s fight to get their marriage recognized by their home state of Ohio went all the way to the Supreme Court, ultimately paving the way for nationwide marriage equality for same-sex couples 10 years ago. John, tragically, passed before the ruling, but the couple’s story endures as a milestone for the LGBTQ+ community. Jim Obergefell joins The Excerpt to share more about his historic journey.
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0:06.7 | Dana Farber's Dr. Anthony Latai, describing work that led to an inhibitor drug against chronic lymphocytic leukemia. |
0:13.1 | And it started with Dr. Stanley Korsmeyer, who identified BCL2 as the protein cancer cells used to prevent self-destruction. |
0:20.6 | Momentum. One brilliant discovery building on another. Go to prevent self-destruction. Momentum, one brilliant discovery |
0:22.6 | building on another, go to Danafarber.org slash stories and see how what we do here changes lives |
0:28.9 | everywhere. John Montgomery, Arthur, do you, continuing from this day, take James Robert Obergefell to be the love of your |
0:42.3 | life, your eternal partner, your husband? |
0:47.3 | I do. |
0:49.3 | Hello and welcome to the excerpt. I'm Zach Wichter, a reporter at USA Today. What you just heard was John |
0:56.0 | Arthur's vows to Jim Obergefell during a wedding ceremony that changed the course of American history. |
1:02.2 | Obergefell and Arthur's fight to get their marriage recognized by their home state of Ohio |
1:06.6 | went all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States, ultimately paving the way for |
1:11.7 | nationwide marriage equality for same-sex couples. John tragically passed before the ruling, |
1:17.9 | but the couple's story endures as a milestone for the LGBTQ plus community and in American history. |
1:25.7 | Jim Obergefell joins me now to share more about his story. Jim, |
1:29.7 | thanks for joining me. Absolutely, Zach. Great to be here. Did you ever think that marriage was a |
1:34.6 | possibility? Was that on the horizon for you at all? Well, for me growing up, marriage always was part of my |
1:40.9 | future, but that was a straight marriage. All of my siblings were married and |
1:45.6 | having kids. So that was always what I imagined. But when I came out, I felt like that dream, |
1:51.9 | that image of my future was taken away from me because that wasn't a possibility. And in fact, |
1:57.8 | when John and I became a couple early on in our relationship, probably 1994 |
2:02.6 | or 95, we talked about marriage and how we both wanted to get married. |
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