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Psychiatry & Psychotherapy Podcast

Therapeutic Alliance Part 2: Meaning and Viktor Frankl’s Logotherapy

Psychiatry & Psychotherapy Podcast

David J Puder

Science, Health & Fitness, Medicine

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2018

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Episode CME activity objectives:

In the context of a therapeutic alliance, apply the information given in this episode to help draw out meaning in others.

Identify who Viktor Frankl was and how his work and legacy have shaped how we understand and utilize meaning in psychiatry.

Define psychic determinism.

Recognize that meaning is idiosyncratic and unique to each individual.

Recognize the multitude of ways people can find meaning in their lives and the various ways they can express and convey this.

Summarize the various studies listed in this episode that have shown how meaning and the creation of meaning can have a positive impact.

David Puder, M.D. has no conflicts of interest to report.

In the celebrated book Man’s Search for Meaning, author Viktor Frankl wrote about his intimate and horrific Holocaust experience. He found that meaning often came from the prisoners’ small choices—to maintain belief in human dignity in the midst of being tortured and starved and bravely face these hardships together.

“The way in which a man accepts his fate and all the suffering it entails, the way in which he takes up his cross, gives him ample opportunity—even under the most difficult circumstances—to add a deeper meaning to his life. It may remain brave, dignified and unselfish. Or in the bitter fight for self-preservation he may forget his human dignity and become no more than an animal.” - Viktor Frankl

“We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.” - Viktor Frankl

Frankl argued that the ultimate human drive is the “will to meaning,” which could be described as the meaning to be found in the present and in the future. For example, I have had patients who are suicidal, yet they would not kill themselves, despite part of them desiring death, because they would not get to see their grandkids grow up. The meaning of the future moments and being able to help their grandkids in some small way empowers them to keep going to treatment.

People’s meaning keeps them going, even when other drives, like sex or desire for power, are completely gone. In this way, Frankl noted, “Focus on the future, that is on the meaning to be fulfilled by the patient in his future…I speak of a will to meaning in contrast to the pleasure principle (or, as we could speak also term it, the will to pleasure) on which Freudian psychoanalysis is centered, as well as in contrast to the will to power on which Adlerian psychology, using the term ‘striving for superiority,’ is focused.”

This idea led to the beginning of a new type of therapy—logotherapy.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Psychiatry and Psychotherapy Podcast. The podcast to help you in your journey

0:06.0

towards becoming a wise, empathic, genuine and connected mental health professional.

0:11.0

I'm your host, Dr. David Puder, a psychiatrist who splits his time practicing psychopharmacology,

0:17.0

individual and group psychotherapy, medical director of a day treatment program,

0:21.0

medical education research, and teaching residents and medical students.

0:30.0

Welcome back to the podcast today's episode. I am going to be talking about the therapeutic alliance part two,

0:41.0

and this is on meaning. And this series is dedicated to my mentor, Dr. John Tarr,

0:47.0

who is an amazing psychoanalyst, and just an amazing resource for me as a young psychiatrist

0:58.0

to be mentored by such a brilliant person and an empathic and a loving person.

1:03.0

So one of the topics that we teach together every year is on therapeutic alliance,

1:09.0

and specifically on meaning and meaning making. And so in this episode, I am going to talk about

1:18.0

Victor Frankel, talk about his work in legacy and logo therapy,

1:23.0

and how he sort of talked about meaning and meaning making.

1:28.0

We're going to talk about psychic determinism, how meaning is idiosyncratic,

1:34.0

how there are multiple ways of helping people find meaning and techniques,

1:40.0

and things that you can do that. And I'm going to summarize various studies

1:44.0

that look at meaning and the positive impact of meaning.

1:49.0

Had a medical student dig into the studies, Kristen Bishop really thankful for her,

1:55.0

and had some other help as well on the blog and article.

2:00.0

So if you want to look at that, you can follow the show notes to psychiatrypodcast.com.

2:08.0

So in Victor Frankel's celebrated book, Mansurge for Meaning,

2:14.0

he wrote about the horrific holocaust experience that he was forced into.

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