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Hello, I'm Nihal Arthur Nyaka and this is the Penguin podcast where we talk to writers about writing.

You're listening to the second of our two end of year specials,

where we look back at some of the highlights of 2022.

So put your feet up, pour yourself an eggnog,

and enjoy some selected cold cuts from the Penguin podcast.

It has been a bumper crop this year.

Bonnie Garmus, Sally Vickers, Benjamin Zephaniah, Greta Thunberg, and they're just

some of the authors we couldn't squash in.

The full conversations are all available on this feed.

Go get them if you haven't already.

In this episode, you'll hear from Pulp Legend Jarvis

Cocker about his first foray into book writing, Good Pop, Bad Pop. The chef, as McCahn, shares the

rationale behind the all-female kitchen at her restaurant. Hanif Abdurakib talks about being treated

like a representative for all of black America.

Lisa Jewel reminisces about her youth in the 80s and 90s.

And Ian McEwan reflects on a life spent writing and the prospect of coming to terms with its end.

In June, Izzy Sati met up with the pulp frontman and musical icon Jarvis Cocker.

His book, Good Pop, Bad Pop, is a sort of biography made up of stories about objects rediscovered in a loft, which is just about perfect for this podcast. They talked about gum, his old school exercise books,

and intriguingly how traffic cones play different roles for different people.

You know, the easy way to do it would have just been to get a skip and chuck it all

and a skip straight away and say, hey, I'll put your stuff in there now. But I just kind of knew

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