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The New Yorker Radio Hour

The Writer Danzy Senna on Kamala Harris and the Complexity of Biracial Identity in America

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

News, David, Books, Arts, Storytelling, Wnyc, New, Remnick, News Commentary, Yorker, Politics

4.25.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

The novelist, who uses the word “mulatto” to describe mixed-race people like herself, talks with Julian Lucas about living across the color line, in a country obsessed with it.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and the New Yorker.

0:10.4

Welcome to the New Yorker Radio Hour.

0:11.9

I'm David Ramnick.

0:13.0

Staff writer Julian Lucas traveled to Los Angeles recently to interview an author

0:19.0

who's been on his radar and on his mind for the better part of the past 15 years.

0:25.0

Do you feel more like a Californian New Englander or a New Yorker?

0:30.0

That's the main split in my identity.

0:32.0

The biracial thing is so small.

0:33.4

Like I'm really like which place do I belong I'm still conflicted about.

0:39.6

The writer is Danzy Sena and her big subject in novels, stories, and essays

0:46.0

is the experience of navigating America's very complicated racial lines.

0:51.0

Sena's new novel is called Colored Television. Here's Julian Lucas.

0:57.0

So I first came to Danzy's work in college when I read her essay The Molado Millennium.

1:04.6

And to me, having grown up biracial in Northern New Jersey, discovering Danzy's work was

1:09.7

so important to me because I had never before read anyone who captured the experience of being

1:15.0

black identified but racially ambiguous in a country that was increasingly putting enormous expectations

1:20.9

on who we were and what kind of world we were supposed to bring about.

1:25.0

And one thing that I've always loved about Sena's work is its irreverence, and her

1:29.2

latest novel is no exception.

1:31.9

The story that with an enormous amount of humor and compassion and

1:36.9

also irony and sarcasm gets at the changing nature of biracial identity in America today and also the way that pop

1:45.8

culture shapes how all of us see ourselves.

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