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The Business of Fashion Podcast

The World Is On Fire But We're Still Buying Shoes

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

BoF’s Imran Amed speaks with Alec Leach about his manifesto on how we can move towards a better relationship with fashion.


Background


For nearly five years, author Alec Leach worked as an editor at streetwear website Highsnobiety, where he spent his “career telling people to buy stuff.” Leach saw up close the contribution his content was having on overconsumption and the lack of responsibility brands and consumers took for their own part on the climate crisis, both subjects he tackles in his book, “The World Is on Fire But We're Still Buying Shoes.” 


“I love working in the industry. I really, really do,” says Leach. “I think we just all need to accept that we're part of this consumerist machine. And once you accept that, then the kind of potential for positive change becomes clearer.” This week on The BoF Podcast, Leach sits down with BoF’s founder and editor-in-chief Imran Amed to discuss how the fashion industry and consumers must change. 


Key Insights:


  • During his time at Highsnobiety, Leach attended several events, including the Global Fashion Summit in Copenhagen, focussed on sustainability in the industry. But for all the discussion of supply chain and new technologies, he felt that there wasn’t enough talk about what he saw as the core issue. “No one's really asking why we buy so many things,” he said. “It always comes down to overconsumption.”
  • In Leach’s book, he says shopping is part of a consumer's identity because of the role it plays in self expression. “It's important to acknowledge that fashion is intimately connected to our sense of self. That makes shopping a pretty existential experience,” said Amed, quoting Leach’s book. 
  • According to Leach, the supply chain is a “nonsensical system” that allows brands to take little accountability for their own manufacturing processes. “Brands aren't really that responsible for what happens in their supply chain, and they're not really responsible for what happens to all these clothes when they're no longer wearable,” said Leach. 
  • Leach’s personal experiences in therapy over the course of years helped him dig deeper while writing his book. “That's where a lot of the more psychological and philosophical elements of the book came out, it was about me being in therapy every day, every week and asking myself some very difficult questions afterwards,” he said.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion.

0:08.3

Welcome to the Bof podcast. It's Friday, May 12th.

0:12.3

Recently, I was sent a book with the title, The World is on Fire, but we're still buying shoes.

0:18.7

It's by a former fashion journalist named Alec Leach,

0:21.4

who spent years as an editor at Streetwear website, High Snobiety.

0:26.1

During his time there,

0:27.5

Alex saw up close the contribution his content was having

0:30.9

on overconsumption in fashion,

0:33.0

and the lack of responsibility brands and consumers

0:36.0

are taking for their own part in the climate crisis.

0:39.5

This week on the BOF podcast, I sit down with Alec to go into depth on some of the key passages in this book

0:46.0

and to understand what he thinks the industry needs to do to change.

0:50.0

Basically, you'll see, he says that we're all part of this consumerist machine,

0:54.5

and once we accept that, the potential for positive change becomes clearer.

0:59.2

Here's Alec Leach on the B.O.F. Podcast.

1:04.3

Hello, Alec. Nice to have you on the BOF podcast. Welcome.

1:09.2

Thanks for the invite.

1:10.0

Of course. I have been diving into your,

1:15.1

do you call it a manifesto or a book? I mean, it's a book. It's just really short, which is something

1:20.6

I'm quite proud of. It's short, but it packs a powerful punch, I have to say. And I can't wait to

1:26.8

get into the nitty gritty. But before we get into the book itself, you know, I have to say. And I can't wait to get into the nitty-gritty. But before we get

1:29.5

into the book itself, you know, I'm just keen to have a little bit of your background. And what brought

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