It is not about health.

This entire WHO new treaty,

but it's about creating a new pandemic industry.

In this episode, I sit down with Swiss attorney Philip Cruz,

who specializes in international law.

He is examined line by line the New World Health Organization's

Pandemic Treaty and amendments to the international health regulations.

The general director will be given much more discretion to declare a public health emergency and to maintain it without any mechanism that could stop him from doing so or even that would

force him to justify his decision.

Are the treaties really non-binding as the WHO maintains.

As long as WHO will maintain the special status of pandemic,

public health emergency, of international concern our Our politicians and our courts will step back from doing their own careful assessment

and will not put in question what they've recommended.

This is American Thought Leaders and I'm Yanya Kelleck.

Philip Cruz, such a pleasure to have you on American thought leaders.

Thank you so much, John, for having me. It's a pleasure.

In the response to the COVID-19 pandemic, right now in great haste, there are these international health regulations an update to them and a new pandemic agreement

what used to be called a pandemic treaty are being negotiated. So give me a sense of what these actually are.

Yes, you are absolutely right. End of 2021. W.H.O. called its member states, its 194 member states together to make a decision about the future,

about creating two new legal instruments, because in their view view they said we had two major problems.

Number one, reacted too late and number two we didn't have sufficient vaccines substances so therefore we need to be better prepared

for the future and they created two working groups one working group was designed

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