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🗓️ 9 November 2022
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For the past 12 years, the tiny, extremely wealthy nation of Qatar has been preparing for the 2022 World Cup, building beautiful new stadiums, roads, and hotels. And, for years, one journalist in particular has been telling the stories of the people who have been doing the actual building, as well as the terrible, sometimes deadly conditions they’ve been working in. Today, that journalist, Pete Pattison, joins us to discuss the truths he has uncovered during a decade of investigative reporting, what, if anything, has changed for migrant workers in Qatar, and what he'll be thinking about when the World Cup kicks off on November 20th.
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0:52.0 | For the past 12 years, the tiny, extremely wealthy nation of Qatar has been preparing for the 2022 World Cup, building beautiful new stadiums, roads and hotels. |
1:07.0 | And for years, one journalist in particular has been telling the stories of the people who have been doing the building and the terrible, sometimes deadly, conditions that they've been working in. |
1:18.0 | Tens of thousands of workers are living in squalid, slave-like conditions. And the Guardian newspaper broke the story of Qatar's World Cup slaves. |
1:28.0 | The Guardian newspaper reports this week that more than 6,500 migrant laborers have died. |
1:35.0 | Pete Paterson in Nepal is one of the reporters who worked on that investigation. |
1:40.0 | Today, that journalist, Pete Paterson, joins us to discuss the truth he's uncovered, what if anything has changed and what he'll be thinking about when the World Cup kicks off later this month. |
1:51.0 | I'll be watching the World Cup, but I'll be thinking about the people and the lives that I've documented over the past 10 years. |
1:57.0 | And it will take the shine of the event for me undoubtedly. |
2:01.0 | From Wondery, I'm Anders Keltsoh. It's Wednesday, November 9th, and this is The Lead. |
2:11.0 | Pete Paterson, welcome to The Lead. Thank you so much. Pleasure to be here. |
2:14.0 | Pete, as I mentioned in the intro, you've been the source of much of the reporting on construction workers in Qatar in recent years. |
2:20.0 | I think you've opened a lot of people's eyes in the process. |
2:23.0 | First, I just wondered if you could tell us a little about your background. How did you end up in Nepal in the first place? And what kind of work were you doing before the World Cup caught your attention? |
2:32.0 | The honest answer to that is my wife and I, when we got married, promised to have a life of adventure. |
2:41.0 | And so we left London and decided to set up in another part of the world. |
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