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🗓️ 30 March 2020
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As the covid-19 situation worsens, host Tom Standage explores what the pandemic reveals about the perils of prediction and what other future threats we might be overlooking. Also, what a simulation of a future mission to Mars could teach us about self-isolation on Earth today. And, the hit video game “Plague, Inc” is teaching players about the dynamics of pandemics—and how to stop them.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the World Ahead on Economist Radio. I'm Tom Standich, Deputy Editor |
0:08.5 | at The Economist. In this Future Gazing Podcast series, we consider provocative prophecies |
0:13.6 | and speculative scenarios to gain a different perspective on the present. But right now, amid |
0:19.4 | the global coronavirus outbreak, it feels as though we're living in a dystopian sci-fi |
0:24.0 | scenario already. So in this episode, we'll be taking a number of different future gazing |
0:29.7 | approaches to look for lessons on how to deal with this extraordinary situation. We'll |
0:35.1 | find out what a future mission to Mars could teach us about self-isolation on Earth today. |
0:40.4 | You need to understand that Crouplehesion is the thing that allows a mission to be successful, |
0:46.8 | and if that fails, then it's all turn out. And we'll find out what's simulating the outbreak |
0:51.4 | in the form of a popular video game can tell us about how the pandemic might play out |
0:56.0 | in the next few months. The key scientific aspect in the game is the basic reproduction |
1:01.8 | number. This is a number that shows how many people can be infected by a single person. |
1:08.0 | But first, the idea of a black swan event was introduced by Nassim Nicholas Taleb, a |
1:16.0 | mathematician and investor in a 2007 book of the same name. It's an unexpected event |
1:23.2 | with a low probability of happening, but that has a large impact and falls outside of |
1:28.0 | people's normal expectations or experiences. So there have been many references to the |
1:33.1 | COVID-19 outbreak as a black swan, notably from Sequoia Capital, Goldman Sachs, Forbes |
1:39.6 | magazine and so on. But Michelle Wuker, an American author and analyst, has a different |
1:45.4 | analogy. This isn't a black swan, she argues, but a somewhat larger animal. |
1:51.2 | I call this sort of event the obvious, probable, high impact event a grey rhino. It's the |
1:58.2 | idea that something big, two tons is coming right at you with a horn. It's going to go |
2:02.7 | over you if you don't do something. It gives you a choice. |
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