What happens when the people who society expects to nurture, protect, care, and love for them, namely your mother and women in general who seem to be more nurturing than us disgusting men?

But what happens when these women are suddenly accused of doing the exact opposite.

Society starts to break down and fall apart.

Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

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Welcome to Survive and Survivor.

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Today, I thought it might be nice to do something a little bit

different. And so we're calling this episode, Women Gone Wild and Worse.

Carm, my beautiful mother, she can get wild sometimes. And in light of the Corey Richens trial that we've been covering,

and we'll be covering this afternoon because they're doing jury instructions later this afternoon,

and Joe and I will be there for at least part of that.

It's starting, I believe, at three Eastern time.

But since we've been doing Corey Richens, Gaville, and

this is a mother of three who is accused of murdering her husband, Eric Richens, with five

times a lethal dose of fentanyl. And then not even writing a children's book, but finding out

that she had a ghost writer to write it and appearing in local Salt Lake City television to promote that book about grief about the husband.

She is alleged to have murdered.

What is going on?

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