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on Saudi soil. But first on the Hollywood news banter, TV broadcasters are nervous as the fall

season gets underway. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

You can imagine Hollywood everything is really driven by making money.

What's with him?

I'm joined in the studio by my fellow banterer, John Horn of the Los Angeles Times. Hello, John.

Hello, Kim. So, John, the TV, the fall season is getting underway for the broadcast networks.

A lot of nervousness, because, as you know, last year was pretty rough. Yeah, and I think the fall season is its own kind of strange idea.

We spent a lot of time talking about the summer movie season where all these movies are kind of

crammed into this narrow window.

And it feels like TV is going to repeat the same thing, where all these shows are jammed

into a very narrow window and the odds of success are very slim.

Yeah, it's an idea that the networks are moving away from, but nonetheless, they are

rolling out their shows. And there's been, as I said, a lot of dread because of so much ratings arose in last year. And some of the networks really saw as much as a quarter of the audience vanish. And certainly the critics have not been feeling like, oh, so much to look forward to. However, I will say, for what it's worth, Fox did launch one of its new

hour dramas, Sleepy Hollow, and it did really well, the asterisk being that a lot of the other

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