She lived in Vancouver and she had divorced a number of years before that and she found herself

going on a blind date which she never imagined she'd ever do and she's at home and she found herself

getting into a dress and putting makeup on even though she hadn't worn makeup for probably the

previous eight or nine months and going to this restaurant and then meeting this guy.

And I don't know how they figured this out. I mean, I'm in admiration of this in some respects.

They found out within the first 10 minutes and they named it within each other, between each

other. Hey, listen, there's no chemistry. There's nothing else going on here and that's fine,

but let's just enjoy the rest of the dinner. And it wasn't until they named that,

did they get into who they are as individuals? And she just turned around. He said,

I'm like, I'd prefer a woman who don't wear makeup, for example. And she goes, oh my God,

you're kidding me. She said, I just put on makeup because I thought that's the thing I should do.

And I hate wearing makeup and I haven't worn makeup for like eight or nine months or whatever was.

And don't want to wear for the next eight or nine months. And it was almost they had dressed up,

got into their armor to go and do battle or to go and impress. And it turns out that neither of them,

they were both post-trata. And they think we are so consumed is the world I would use.

Consumed by what people think. And I with respect to anybody who's listening to says, no, I used to be

like that. I've left that completely go. I would with respect challenge you deeply on that.

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