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Make Me Smart

The welfare-to-work industrial complex

Make Me Smart

Marketplace

News, Business

4.65.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Hey Smarties! Kai and Kimberly will be back in your podcast feed tomorrow for our weekly deep dive, but until then we’re bringing you a deep dive of a different kind. It’s an episode from Marketplace’s investigative podcast “The Uncertain Hour” which is all about obscure policies and forgotten histories. In the new season, Marketplace’s Krissy Clark and the team dig into the origins and evolution of America’s welfare-to-work system (which got lots of attention in the recent debt ceiling debate). Let us know what you think. And as Kai often says, history matters!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Everybody, it's Kai, Kimberly and I are coming back to your feeds tomorrow with our weekly

0:03.8

Tuesday show.

0:04.8

But today you're going to hear about some of the history behind the nation's welfare

0:07.9

system because, as I like to say on this podcast, history matters.

0:12.3

It's an episode from our investigative podcast, The Uncertain Hour, all about obscure policies

0:16.2

and forgotten histories.

0:18.0

And in its new season, Chrissy Clark and her team dig into the origins of America's welfare

0:22.6

to work system, how it came to be and how it has led to the rise of the welfare to work

0:27.1

industrial complex we have right now.

0:29.2

It's a super smart episode.

0:30.7

We think you'll enjoy it.

0:31.7

Here's Chrissy.

0:32.7

I've spent a fair bit of time in the last few years getting tours of four profit welfare

0:38.7

offices, like this one in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where a video of a corporate motivational speaker

0:45.7

is beaming down on me from a TV screen in the lobby.

0:49.0

Look yourself in there.

0:50.9

And with excitement and enthusiasm, say, I love my job because they pay me for working

0:55.9

there.

0:56.9

Have you ever heard of a for-profit welfare office before?

0:59.4

Me neither, until I started reporting this story.

1:03.0

But back when Congress passed so-called welfare reform in the 1990s and made work a requirement

1:08.8

for getting certain types of government aid, that same law also allowed the government

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