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The Waves: What E. Jean Carroll Did For Women

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🗓️ 11 May 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of The Waves, E. Jean Carroll won, but what now? Slate senior producer Cheyna Roth talks with Slate senior writer Christina Cauterucci about the use of civil trials in cases of alleged rape and domestic violence, how the #MeToo movement influenced the trial, and what Carroll’s win could mean going forward. More About Carroll: “Not My Type” by Christina Cauterucci Lie Detector by Christina Cauterucci There’s a Remarkable Piece of Evidence in the E. Jean Carroll Trial by Christina Cauterucci Make No Mistake About the $5 Million E. Jean Carroll Verdict Against Trump by Christina Cauterucci In Slate Plus, the stupidity of one of Trump’s lies. If you liked this episode, check out: What Amber Heard’s Makeup Palette Says About the Legal System Podcast production by Cheyna Roth and Tori Dominguez with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery. Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to [email protected]. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now at slate.com/thewavesplus. Make an impact this Asian American & Pacific Islander Heritage Month by helping Macy’s on their mission to fund APIA Scholars. Go to macys.com/purpose to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:40.2

Welcome to the waves. Slates podcast about gender, feminism, and this week, hideous men and

0:46.0

the lies they tell. Every episode you get a new pair of feminists to talk about the thing

0:51.2

we can't get off our minds. And today, you've got me, Shayna Roth, senior producer here

0:55.6

at Slate. Later in the show, I'll be joined by Slate, senior writer, Christina Cotterucci.

1:02.3

E. Jean Carroll remembers the old version of Donald Trump.

1:06.0

Anderson, we were having a high old time. You remember Donald Trump? He'll fellow well

1:11.3

met, walking up down the streets of New York, greeting everybody, everybody liked him.

1:15.7

You're talking about 1995, 1996.

1:17.8

1995, 1996. He was, she experienced. He was great. You'd love to see him on the street.

1:24.0

So when we met in Bergdorf's and he said, help me advise me to find a present, I was,

1:31.0

I was thrilled. I thought, this is hilarious.

1:33.8

I'm wondering the statement that he said. That's Carol on Anderson Cooper's CNN show in

1:38.6

2019. Carol was a columnist for Elle magazine and you can tell just by that clip that she's

1:44.5

a vivacious, intelligent woman. She's someone you'd like to go shopping with, have a drink

1:49.4

with. But despite that description of Trump in the 90s, Carol goes on to recount her

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