This is the waves. This is the waves. This is the waves. This is the waves. This is the waves.

Welcome to the waves. Slates podcast about gender, feminism, and what's going to happen to women

as the climate keeps changing. Every episode you get a new pair of women to talk about the thing we

can't get off our minds. Today you got me, Rebecca Onion, a staff writer for Slate.

And me, I'm Grace Lynch, senior producer at Wonder Media Network and host of the podcast

as she rises, which is a new show that tries to personalize the climate crisis through poetry,

soundscapes, and the stories of local activists. The problem of climate change is so big. So this is

why I think I like your podcast so much. It can be hard to wrap your arms around. And we've all heard

a bunch of times about this idea that the changes that are coming and that have already come

are going to affect poorer parts of the world in more intense ways. But there's also an argument

that I find really interesting to think about that climate change is a woman's issue. Why am I

interested in this? Well, I'm a woman and I have a climate and I care a lot about it. I'm kidding.

Of course, everybody has a climate, but I am really interested in the question of vulnerability

and climate and have been for years. But I feel like since COVID, I've become more and more

interested in it. So I remember when the lockdowns for a started in March 2020 and everybody said,

you know, there were a lot of think pieces about how disparate the impact was going to be.

And throughout the whole pandemic, we've sort of come up with different ways to articulate

that disparateness and talk about it in different ways. And from the observation that soon became

really commonplace that, you know, kids who didn't have access to school lunch who were poor,

we're going to suffer food insecurity from, you know, the realization again and again that

essential workers are more exposed, all of these things. That was something we've been thinking

about a lot and more and more I'm starting to see is starting to feel like a lot of what's

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