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Hey, welcome to a new year, a new edition of After Hours with producer Alley.

Happy New Year. I'm producer Greg. How are you, Ellie? Good. How was your holiday?

I had a great time. Thank you. How about you?

I had a good time as well. And Clay and Buck got my gifts that I wrapped with eight layers of wrapping paper.

So they opened them like Russian dolls.

Really? We're using Christmas paper? We're using birthday paper? We're using just brown paper?

I stuck to the Christmas wrapping paper.

Theemed. Oh, themed. Oh, impressive. Did Buck say anything about it? Because I know he's, you know,

he said it took 10 minutes to open his gift. Really? Good for you. Now, was it just wrapping paper,

or is it like nesting doll boxes? No, no, just wrapping paper because I really wanted

to lean into the wrapping paper after he dissed it. Yes. For those of you who have no idea what

we're talking about, Buck went on a whole thing about how he does not like wrapping paper,

much to my chagrin since I love wrapping paper and I love wrapping presents and giving them.

Was it so much? Okay, now I'm going to step up for Buck here just a minute here.

Was it so much that he doesn't like wrapping paper or he just doesn't really see the need?

Now, Kerry's born on Christmas Day?

Christmas Eve.

No, he was born on December 28th.

But Carrie's birthday, it was Christmas Day.

So he doesn't see the need of having to have individual gifts, one for birthday, one for Christmas, and then wrapped in separate paper. He just didn't get it. Yes. So it was less, it was more about that than it was about just not liking wrapping paper. No, he didn't like wrapping paper either. he threw wrapping paper under the bus,

and I had to step in in defense.

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