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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

The War On Truth

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The Cold Warriors of the postwar world never dreamed that Western democracies would come to rely on a global information network – and that our very openness could be turned against us. As the stories of Brexit, COVID and Trump coalesce into one nightmare tale of disinformation and weaponised lying, Arthur Snell asks whether democracy can survive in a post-truth world. If you control the information space, do you control the future? And after the pandemic, can we withstand the infodemic? Want to support us, get episodes early and extra content? Support us on Patreon and back us from just £3 per month now. • “If you’ve got enough money, you can ensure that people hear your talking points day in day out, hour after hour.” – Amil Khan • “COVID was a means to test these weapons. Climate denial is the next battleground, and it will make the anti-lockdown and COVID stuff look like child’s play.” – Darren Loucaides • “If tech companies can’t moderate memes and text, how on Earth are they going to moderate the Metaverse?” — Nina Jankowicz • “Soviet Union was Terminator 1: bulky and ungainly. Now Putin’s Russia is Terminator 2, very fluid and adaptable.” – Peter Pomerantsev • “Our systems are threatened not by people who are suffering but by comfortable middle class people who are bored and looking to go on a crusade.” — Tom Nichols • “What is shocking is how fast people will jump from a failure of policy itself to the idea that the whole edifice of liberal democracy needs to be junked in favour of a celebrity strongman.” — Tom Nichols • “Our openness is a weakness. We can’t go into Russia and broadcast like the BBC can – but RT can come here and say anything it likes.” – Nina Jankowicz DOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn – with assistant production from Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. The group editor is Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

heard about Magpie, the vegan pie truck that needed a bit of help from GoDaddy.

0:03.3

One day the owners are like,

0:04.8

this business hasn't reached this potential,

0:07.1

and the other one goes,

0:08.1

we need a bigger piece of the pie,

0:09.9

and then it hits her.

0:11.1

We need GoDaddy.

0:12.0

Look, we can get a domain name and create an online store

0:14.8

so we can sell to more customers.

0:16.8

Now they've gone from serving a couple of pies

0:19.1

to a vlogging nationwide.

0:20.9

And now everyone's like,

0:22.3

vegan pies are the new thing around here.

0:25.0

Wait, no me!

0:26.3

Tid a next step on your business journey with GoDaddy.

0:56.8

At the start of 2020, the world we knew ceased to exist.

1:12.6

As a mysterious new illness was reported in China,

1:16.1

the question of whether it could be contained there was quickly answered

1:19.7

by the realities of a globalised world.

1:22.3

People need to know,

1:24.4

this is a battle that we can win,

1:27.0

only for your lack together.

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