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The Red Nation Podcast

The War on Terror & the “crusading society” w/ Adnan Husain (Pt.2)

The Red Nation Podcast

The Red Nation

Society & Culture, History

4.8943 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Historian and co-host of Guerrilla History Podcast (@guerrilla_pod) Adnan Husain (@adnanahusain) sees the war on terror as part of a long history going back to the medieval crusades. This deep-dive historical discussion traces the early forms of racial capitalism and settler colonialism as they arose in Europe and the Americas.

Make sure to check out the first half of the conversation!

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0:00.0

The I'm going to publish but you know four days ago was the anniversary of the assassination of Sitting Bowl. You know a lot of people point out that he was assassinated by the Indian police force who came to like monitor and crush the ghost dance because it was seen as kind of this religious fueled kind of uprising even though Sitting Bull himself wasn't really quite a practitioner even though he respected it you know in terms of that it gave hope to the people

1:00.9

But one of the ways that they tracked his movements is that they actually

1:05.2

conscripted an informant that was a relative of his name One Bowl and it's not really well

1:09.8

published in a lot of the popular literature but the Indian agent McLaughlin was the guy, you know, he was getting direct reports from this guy, one bull on where, you know, what Sitting Bull was talking about, you know, how he was thinking, it wasn't just about, you know, bringing back this, the old ways. He was actually organizing against the general allotment act. He was like, we can, you know, he was going to the crows, you know, who are often characterized as our kind of traditional enemy.

1:36.3

And he was speaking to them and saying, you know, we need a united front on allotment

1:41.1

to oppose this policy, but it was being framed as this kind of like fanatic, religious cult that he was participating in and he was going to lead this upright, even though most of the practice of the ghost dance

1:53.9

didn't involve weapons didn't involve anything like of that nature but it gets to this

1:59.2

another question you know you spoke about a little bit but this idea of like informants is being used you know to infiltrate these

2:06.3

organizations and you know one of the things I've read a lot of the FBI files and so this this piece called enemies what is it Muslims enemies of the state

2:15.5

by

2:16.2

Hataim Bazion I don't know if I said his name correctly yeah Hataim Bazion yes

2:20.5

that's right he talks about the kind of the kind of the legacies of Cointel Pro and you know one thing he doesn't

2:27.6

really get into in this piece but one thing that I found was really interesting is that these informants were instructed specifically to identify any relations, foreign relations that the Black Panthers, that nation of Islam, you know, would have with foreign

2:46.2

governments, you know, or foreign movements and that's what they were primarily interested

2:50.0

in. You know, I don't want to like split hairs here but I would say that the

2:53.8

coantel program ended in 1971 maybe that's a controversial take but me as a

2:57.8

historian I would say it ended but the institutional knowledge and he

3:01.7

correctly points out this was not a program but programs

3:06.4

that they were kind of like surveilling all of these different groups

3:10.6

but it continued you know like for the American Indian movement, which I've studied quite a bit and quite extensively, they were, you know, there's this really interesting report that came out in, after they outed one of the informants his name was Douglas Durham he was a fake Indian that's a whole other story but when he was testifying in this like really kind of like mock congressional hearing it was totally fake and fabricated.

3:33.4

He made explicit to connect not only

3:36.1

the American Indian movements alleged connections

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