My next guest, which is Dave Aspery.

Dave Aspery is the Bulletproof Executive.

He's been coming on London Rail for like six years, seven years.

You might know him from his Bulletproof Coffee, which is typically coffee

with butter and MCT oil, which is, or brain octane oil as he has.

He's big into intermittent fasting, but he's really into biohacking.

And Dave has his own opinion about veganism, about plants and animals, and also about fried food and all that stuff and

Dave really looks about it from purely a biohacking perspective I mean in a

nice way you know if if Dave could find anything that would up your performance,

he would probably be for it.

So I don't think this is from an ethical point of view, but I think it's great to look at someone

who's talking about this from the science.

And you might be able to guess what

Dave is gonna say but this is his take on the whole concept of a plant or an

animal-based diet. Here's the truth. If you eat industrially raised and fed animals, you are

going to die earlier than you should. You're contributing to degradation of

soil and animal cruelty. It's bad for you. So, straight up, you want to live longer? Spend twice as much on your

meat and eat half as much. I am not telling you to eat no meat because you will not like what

happens when you eat no meat, especially no animal fat. But when you do eat

meat, make sure it's ethically raised, local if you can get it, and grass fed. And when you do

that, you feel different. And if you take that meat and you deep fry it or you

burn it on a grill till it's all charred it also will be bad for you. So gently

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