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Explain It to Me

The Veepstakes

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2020

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Ezra and Matt on Warren, Abrams, Harris, and the Tammies and the links between racial and economic justice. Resources: "The Second Defeat of Bernie Sanders" by Ross Douthat, NYT "The Black-White Wage Gap Is as Big as It Was in 1950" by David Leonhardt, NYT "What is Owed" by Nikole Hannah-Jones, NYT "The Triumph of Black Lives Matter and Neoliberal Redemption" by Cedric Johnson, Nonsite.org Hosts: Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Senior correspondent, Vox Ezra Klein (@ezraklein), Editor-at-large, Vox Credits: Jeff Geld, (@jeff_geld), Editor and Producer The Weeds is a Vox Media Podcast Network production Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts About Vox Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Facebook group: The Weeds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I commit that I will, in fact, pick a woman to be Vice President.

0:05.6

There are a number of women who are qualified to be President tomorrow.

0:09.0

I would pick a woman to be my Vice President.

0:11.4

Hello, welcome to another episode of the Weeds on the Box Media Podcast Network.

0:28.4

I'm Matthew Eglaceus here today with Ezra Klein.

0:31.8

We are going to talk about the deep stakes, the great political journalism summer cliche,

0:37.7

because the time is right for that.

0:39.9

But first, we do want to delay that a little bit and make you listen to some more public

0:44.5

policy talk.

0:45.5

And, you know, something that I was interested in is that Ross Douthet did this column,

0:52.0

which I think would annoy some people because it was coming from Ross Douthet, who's

0:55.8

a conservative, who maybe doesn't actually care about this stuff.

1:00.1

But voicing concerns that, you know, I associate with sort of African American leftists,

1:06.2

like Adolf Reed or Central Johnson, which was that the sort of racial politics, the outpouring

1:14.4

of people in the streets, but also in social media and in the corporate world on behalf

1:20.5

of Black Lives Matter, represents at least on some level a co-optation by corporate America

1:32.4

of progressive energy in a way that you didn't see when young people were rallying for Bernie

1:41.2

Sanders, for example, who was talking about economic justice.

1:46.6

And, you know, I mean, I think there's, there's like a number of different ways in which

1:50.2

you could view this.

1:51.2

I mean, if you look at the actual protest leaders, they do, of course, have a very sort of robust

1:56.9

social and economic justice agenda.

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