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The Vast Majority: Sliding Into (and, Hopefully, Out of) Reaganland

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🗓️ 13 April 2021

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Micah talks with Chapo Trap House's Matt Christman about historian Rick Perlstein's Reaganland: America's Right Turn 1976-1980, the politics of the 1970s and the possibilities for political alternatives to the right turn America ended up taking, the parallels of that era to the Obama/Bernie/Trump era, and (what else?) the desperate need to revive labor to escape our neverending culture wars.


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0:51.0

Hello friends, welcome to another episode of the vast majority. I'm Jack Mendeppity Editor, Micah Utrecht.

0:58.0

Today I am joined for a kind of a book club, I guess, although you do not have to have read the book in question in order to get something out of the episode.

1:08.0

I'm joined by Chapel Trap House's Matt Christman to discuss the book Reagan Land, America's Right Turn 1976 to 1980 by Rick Pearlstein.

1:19.0

This book is the fourth installment of a four-part book series by Pearlstein that began with his book before the storm about Barry Goldwater and the origins of the new right.

1:33.0

His most famous book, probably came out after that, Nixon Land, and then the Invisible Bridge a few years ago, and this book is number four.

1:42.0

Matt and I talk about the book Reagan Land, and I would highly recommend listeners get copies of any and or all of his four books because they are indispensable reading for understanding the current political cultural moment that we're in.

1:59.0

But you do not have to have read any of the books, I think, to get something out of the conversation that we have.

2:06.0

Also, it is a bit of a heavy lift, I'm picking up the book right now. If you can hear it, it's like 1,100 pages long, it's definitely a brick of a book as are all four of his books.

2:19.0

But take it from me and Matt Christman, all four of the books are definitely worth it.

2:25.0

So here's our conversation about Rick Pearlstein's Reagan Land and the culture and politics of the late 1970s as well as our current era.

2:37.0

Matt, hello.

2:38.0

Hi.

2:39.0

So we're here kind of like two person book club we're doing today with this book, Reagan Land America's Right Turn 1976 to 1980 by Rick Pearlstein.

2:49.0

And Pearlstein is a liberal occasionally social democratic-ish historian, and this is the fourth book in his series on the emergence of the new right that goes from the Barry Goldwater campaign in 1964.

3:06.0

To Ronald Reagan winning the presidency in 1980.

3:10.0

You and I both have read all four of these massive books that Pearlstein has written.

3:15.0

Can you just start with like, why read this guy, Pearlstein? What to you is distinctive about him and makes him worthwhile slogging through these like 1,000 page books?

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