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KERA's Think

The value of wacky sounding science

KERA's Think

KERA

Society & Culture, 071003, Kera, Think, Krysboyd

4.8861 Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

More than a million dollars in taxpayer money was spent observing shrimp on treadmills — and it might’ve been a great investment. Carly Anne York, associate professor at Lenoir-Rhyne University, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss seemingly wacky scientific inquiries – into everything from worm blobs to elephant pee – and how they’ve yielded real breakthroughs that add to both knowledge and the economy. Her book is “The Salmon Cannon and the Levitating Frog: And Other Serious Discoveries of Silly Science.”

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Back in 2011, the late Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn released this 73-page report to publicize what he considered wasteful spending by the National Science Foundation.

0:25.6

The project that got the most media attention by far was part of a 10-year study, funded by $1.3 million in federal grants over that time,

0:29.6

and it came complete with irresistible video of the study subject,

0:33.6

a little shrimp with its 10 legs frantically whizzing along on an underwater conveyor belt.

0:39.8

From KERA in Dallas, this is Think.

0:42.8

I'm Chris Boyd.

0:44.3

It is a safe bet that no scientist is eager to generate the next shrimp on a treadmill joke headline.

0:50.3

Although, as turns out, this might...

0:53.0

It's a safe bet that no scientist is eager to generate the next shrimp on a treadmill joke headline,

0:59.0

although, as it turns out, the marine biologist who built it had a good reason.

1:03.0

But my guest, who is an animal physiologist herself, wants us all to understand that many scientific inquiries

1:09.0

with no immediate practical application,

1:11.8

the kind of research driven purely by human curiosity, they can yield knowledge whose value

1:16.8

becomes clear way down the road. Carly Ann York is Associate Professor of Biology at Lenore

1:22.5

Rhine University. Her book is called The Salmon Cannon and the Levitating Frog and other serious discoveries of silly science.

1:30.8

Carly, welcome to think.

1:32.7

Thank you so much for having me.

1:34.7

This book really isn't about you per se, but you do share that you work in the world of basic research.

1:40.8

What does that mean exactly, basic research?

1:43.8

Yeah, so basic research is the opposite of

1:48.8

applied research in that you are going in for a purely curiosity-driven question without

1:56.3

any immediate goal of an application. So applied research is usually tied to some kind of what

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