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I'm Dr. James Dobson, and I'm thrilled that you've joined us.

Well, welcome to Family Talk, the broadcast division of the Dr. James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Roger Marsh, and today we're bringing you the conclusion of a powerful three-part series titled

The Use and Abuse of Power. It features Dr. Dobson's classic conversation with his dear friend, Chuck Colson.

It's a part of our Besta broadcast collection

here in 2025. And even though this program was recorded back in 1984, now that Chuck Colson

and Dr. Dobson are both home with the Lord, enjoying a wonderful reunion, no doubt, the principles

that are discussed in this conversation are even more important today than they were back in

1984. Now, you'll remember

that Chuck Colson's transformation from President Nixon's notorious Hatchet Man to a humble

servant of Christ remains one of the most remarkable conversion stories of our lifetime. After serving

seven months in prison for his role in the Watergate scandal, Chuck Colson answered God's call

and founded Prison Fellowship Ministries, dedicating the rest of his life to bringing hope

to the incarcerated and powerless. Today's family talk conversation couldn't be more relevant

as we navigate questions of power, service, and Christian witness in our own time.

Dr. Dobson and Chuck Colson will explore what it

truly means to serve God in positions of influence, and they'll also discuss how we can guard our

hearts against the corrupting nature of power. Let's listen in now to part three of this

classic conversation.

Before we went on the air, you were telling me about your visit to a prison.

Was it in Lima, Peru?

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