Welcome to today's program. My name is Glenn Dyson. I'm a professor of political science.

With me is the excellent Alexander Mercuris from the very popular Duran podcast. And with us

today is none other than Dr. Ron Paul. Welcome, sir. Very good. Nice to be with you. So, yeah, for those who are not aware,

Ron Paul, has been a congressman for years representing Texas. It was also a presidential candidate of

1988, 2008 and 2012. And I personally remember vividly how immensely popular peace message was during the presidential

debates of 2008 and 12, so making all of us very hopeful about the future.

So the topic of today, we really wanted to get into looking at this new great power rivalry between the United States and Russia and China.

But I thought first, since you tend to have an economic perspective on a lot of issues, I thought we could start by discussing how you see the military industrial complex, because you want to refer to the war we are currently fighting against

Russia as a racket. I was wondering if you could explain your thoughts on this matter.

Well, it's a big problem because it has little to do with national defense and national security,

but it has a lot to do with the profiteering and the military industrial

complex.

One of the Republican candidates has a pretty decent approach in, you know, foreign policy

and sounds like it's fair and balanced, but then he sort of went over into just talking about,

well, you know, it's good that we get weapons

for Ukraine because we had to be involved and he had his reasons. And he also wanted to talk about

China. He says, well, you have to remember that when we order weapons,

we don't send them the money. We just send it to the military industrial complex, and they

built these weapons. So he was trying to make it sound a little bit benign, but the whole thing,

he says, and that's good for jobs.

You know, you're not supposed to say that a lot, but that's what it is. It's a jobs program.

So he was saying, well, when we spend all this money overseas, we send the money, you know,

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