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🗓️ 21 November 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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In the story of the melting pot, the United States can integrate all peoples into one — but what if that’s more of a myth than a metaphor? Colin Woodard is an author, historian, journalist and director of Nationhood Lab at Salve Regina University’s Pell Center for International Relations and Public Policy. He joins host Krys Boyd to discuss why the civics lessons we’re taught about our country are sometimes overridden by regional cultures, why the origins of our divisions come from where we live, and how a new national story might bring us together. His book is “Nations Apart: How Clashing Regional Cultures Shattered America.”
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| 1:09.7 | From KERA in Dallas, this is think. I'm Chris Boyd. |
| 1:14.1 | Author, historian, and journalist Colin Woodard is director of Nationhood Lab at Salve Regina |
| 1:19.9 | University's Pell Center for International Relations and Public Policy. He spent much of his career |
| 1:26.2 | identifying the diverse subcultures that exist within this |
| 1:29.8 | country based not on race or religion or socioeconomic status, but geography. And in his newest book, |
| 1:36.5 | he argues that understanding these regional distinctions and how they originated might be the |
| 1:41.0 | first step toward healing the divisions between us. The title is Nations Apart, How Clashing Regional Cultures Shattered America. |
| 1:48.9 | Colin, welcome back to think. |
| 1:51.0 | Thanks so much. |
| 1:51.8 | It's a pleasure to be back. |
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