Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast. Today we are going to talk about exactly how all of this messed up stuff in government happens under your nose without you really realizing it.

But it's actually costing hundreds of millions, even billions of dollars to the left to do this.

And we're not seeing it. But Tyler O'Neill, thankfully, he actually broke it all

down for us in a new book called Woktipus. He is the senior editor at The Daily Signal.

And this book, I've been reading through it, it is just, it's exactly what I want you all to know.

And I didn't know exactly how to break it down,

but it's all here. So thank you so much for joining me, and thank you for writing this for us.

Well, thank you so much for having me, Tudor.

Yeah, so, I mean, I just want to dig right into it because I think what is most shocking is the amount of money

that goes into making people believe that they naturally

decided that they were pro trans activism, anti-Israel, all this climate stuff. I mean,

the amount of detail you get into is astonishing because I just don't think people really realize it. But when you see the money,

the hidden money, the whole Arabella system of how this money goes in, I mean, even, I think

you even have like the National Wildlife Fund in there, which is billions of dollars goes in there.

And people, you hear that, you think that sounds so wonderful

because I think of like bears and lions and things being protected, you know. And I go in there

and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is just a total disaster for fake climate stuff. Yeah. And what you've seen over and over again is these climate groups, these activists, green

activists groups, they started with noble goals, you know, often trying to tweak one or

two things to protect a few endangered species here or there.

And then they got almost, you know, captured by this ideology that says,

all human impact on the environment is evil. And this overlooks the fact that human beings have

been taking care of the environment in good ways that help the environment for as long as we've

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